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Ladies and gentlemen, the
ground on which we stand today

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has seen numerous ceremonies
honoring the ties of friendship

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and cooperation that
continue to flourish

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between the province
of British Columbia

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and the state of Washington.

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Today, we are commemorating
the most noble gesture,

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which one nation can
extend toward another,

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that of a helping hand
in a time of need.

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A major natural disaster
or nuclear attack,

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concentrated in this area of
Canada or the United States

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would create an immediate
requirement for disaster

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services and mutual
assistance between our two

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great countries, our provinces
and states, our cities,

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large and small.

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The voluntary
dispersal of people

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from the Vancouver target
area in the possible event

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of disaster.

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Our common tongue does much
to assist in our mutual trust

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and understanding.

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However, it does only one
factor in the attainment

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of such a forward step
in survival planning.

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Much work spread
over several years

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has been accomplished by the
officials of the civil defense

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organizations of the
state of Washington

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and of British Columbia, so
that today's arrangements

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could become a reality.

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Across this
unfortified boundary,

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with our hands
clasped in friendship,

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we mark today as the
completion of a vital step

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toward ensuring the
survival of our people.

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It is an agreement that sets
up a traffic control plan that

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gives us assurance to people
of the Vancouver target area

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that they may exit during
a period of disaster

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to the eastern part
of our own province,

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through Whatcom County.

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Canada and the United States is
the example to all the world,

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to all the world, of mutual
trust and understanding.

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May our mutual friendship
and understanding

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continue to live and to
prosper forever plus one day.

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Thank you.

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Be my guest.

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Go ahead.

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All set?

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This is the
honorable W.D. Black,

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Provincial Secretary for the
province of British Columbia.

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Minister Black, why is British
Columbia taking the lead

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among the six provinces that
border on the United States

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in this kind of civil
defense cooperation?

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Well, my friend, number
one is because we just

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happen to be the smartest
people in Canada.

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But number two is because of our
topography and our geography.

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You'll recall that the Rocky
Mountain range comes down

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bordering or cutting
us off, rather,

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from Alberta and possibly
the rest of Canada.

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And it is to our mutual
aid and advantage

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to have a cooperative program
with the state of Washington.

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And we've found that
cooperation excellent

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and to the mutual
benefit of both parties.

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Is this rooting through
Whatcom County a permanent,

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or are there plans for
developing evacuation routes

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within British Columbia?

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Well, let me answer
it this way, that we

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do have other evacuation
routes in British Columbia.

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But most people in
this general area

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know the city of
Vancouver, and they

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know that there's approximately
eight lanes of traffic

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coming out of Vancouver toward
the south or toward this way.

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And when we reach
Hope, that narrows

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into two lanes of traffic.

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And it becomes very
obvious that if we've

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continued with that
type of evacuation, then

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we'd have nothing
but congestion.

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And this arrangement
that was made here today

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will alleviate, at least to some
degree, that congestion that

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might occur at that point.

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Thank you very much
the Honorable W.D.

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Black, Provincial Secretary
for the province of British

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Columbia.

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Turning to another topic, the
North Cross State Highway.

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Do you think this would have
significant civil defense

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value as evacuation
routes both for people

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in this part of Washington
state and in Southern British

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Columbia?

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I believe I could say, Al,
that a North Cross State

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Highway would be of great
benefit to this particular area

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and to the province
of British Columbia.

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I think the economic
value is tremendous.

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But the fact that
you just mentioned

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that it could help with civil
defense, I'm sure it could.

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Thank you very much.

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Lieutenant Governor,
John Cherberg

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of the state of Washington.

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We are standing in the
Washington State Civil Defense

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Mobile Command post bus, and we
are talking with General E.M.

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Llewellyn, who is the
civil defense coordinator

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for the state of Washington.

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General Llewellyn, what
is this bus's purpose?

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Well, this is a
mobile command post.

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We can operate state government
from this particular unit.

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We can keep, for example, in
touch with [INAUDIBLE] command,

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with all our county government,
with state fisheries and game,

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with the military, with
air, with home civil defense

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networks, Coast
Guard, and with what

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we call ham operators, which
is almost everybody else.

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And as this would be the place
from which the communications

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for state government
would be carried

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on an event of a
national disaster?

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It could be.

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In other words, we could move
this bus to any safe location

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and still operate and
maintain communications

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with all other
units of government.

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We are here at the
peace arch today

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to start a new cooperative
venture between Washington

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state and British Columbia with
regard to evacuation routes.

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When was this first suggested?

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About two years ago.

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See, it takes
quite a bit of time

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to work out an
international agreement.

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First starts at the state
level between the two state

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governments, and it has to go
up to the State Department.

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And our State Department
in Washington DC

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works with Ottawa, Canada.

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And so it takes nearly
two years to work out

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an agreement on the local
level when you finally

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put it through the whole mill.

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Do you find this
cooperation in civil defense

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with the province
of British Columbia

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to be a significant strategic
factor in your long range

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planning?

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Yes, we do.

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Many people, I believe
fail to realize

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how intertied we are with
various sections of even

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the North American continent.

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For example, should the bomb
drop on the state of Washington

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or on the whole United States,
producing three times the food

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we need in Washington, we'd find
we would have to supply food

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to Alaska and Idaho,
and we'd probably

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receive some food from Oregon.

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And this also
overlaps into Canada.

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These interchanges of
materials and supplies

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and strategic materials, we
receive oil, for example,

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from Canada.

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So all of these things
have to be organized

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on a cooperative basis.

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And this form of cooperation
is an absolute necessity then.

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Absolutely.

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Even in peacetime,
it's required.

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In war time, it'd become
absolutely necessary

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for survival.

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What are current plans with
regard to civil defense

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in Washington state?

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Well, our big project now
is to provide protection

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from fallout for the
entire population

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of the state of Washington.

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We have recently
uncovered and engineered

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the safety factors of every
building, mine, tunnel,

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and structure in the
state of Washington,

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and we now know that there
is survival protection

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for some 690,000 of our people,
and between now and the first

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of the year, we will stock
all of these facilities

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with food, water, sanitary
equipment, first aid equipment,

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and radiological equipment
for that protection in case

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of the bomb.

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Thank you very much,
General Llewellyn.

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This is Brigadier J.F.A. Lister,
civil defense coordinator

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for the province of
British Columbia.

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Brigadier Lister, have
plans been developed whereby

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Washington state residents might
be using BC facilities in case

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of an international disaster?

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Mr. Swift, all our planning
is based on reciprocity,

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and we would certainly
welcome the opportunity

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to assist the people
of Washington state

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if there was a strike
down here and not one

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in British Columbia.

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I see.

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Well, would this
cooperation also

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extend on both
sides of the border

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to things other than
evacuation routes,

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such as hospitals,
fire equipment, things

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of this nature, food?

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It definitely would, Mr. Swift.

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After all, people are people.

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And it doesn't matter whether
they come from Washington

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or British Columbia,
our facilities

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would be placed
at your disposal.

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And this cross the border
cooperation is something

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that is a necessity if civil
defense programs in both

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the province and in the state of
Washington are to be effective,

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is that right?

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To all intents and
purposes, Mr. Swift,

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we are one country if the
continent is attacked.

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I see.

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What are current plans
in British Columbia

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for additional civil defense
activities for the protection

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of the citizens?

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Well, our planning is based
on shelter and dispersal.

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And of course, dispersal
is on a voluntary basis.

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That's the reason
we're here today,

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another method of dispersal.

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Exactly, Mr. Swift.

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Exactly.

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This bronze plaque commemorates
the ceremonies completed here

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today September 22,
1962, signifying

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the placing of the first marker
route for the dispersal routes

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from Vancouver through
Washington state

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and into British Columbia again.

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And with us today
is John Littlehales,

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the civil defense coordinator
for the Vancouver zone,

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and Ray Henning, who
is the civil defense

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director for Whatcom County.

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First of all, John
could you tell us

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where this dispersal
route begins?

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It follows the
Deas Island freeway

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through the Deas Island tunnel
down to the border here.

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And when it gets to the
border, where does it go?

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It goes over two routes.

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It goes over H Street,
East, and it also

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goes over the Blaine-Sumas road
to Sumas, to the border control

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station at Sumas and
then back on into Canada.

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Now, H Street is H
Street in Blaine?

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That is H Street in Blaine.

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That's right.

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OK, once it gets to
the Sumas border,

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where does it go from there?

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Well it goes from the
border crossing up back

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to Trans Canada Highway
through Chilliwack

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and through the Hope.

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Mr. Littlehales, another
very interesting thing

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took place this afternoon.

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That was the feeding of
the troops in the emergency

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kitchens up here.

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How many of these
kitchens do you

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have in British Columbia
or will you have soon?

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Well, at the moment we
have two of them Al.

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But we have six more coming,
and we will have eight

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altogether in my zone.

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And how many people could
one of these kitchens feed?

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Well, each kitchen feeds
500 persons for one hour.

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For one hour.

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For one hour.

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And these are
completely equipped?

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Completely equipped, all
except the food, of course.

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I noticed a rather
interesting stove.

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Could you tell us something
about the stoves that are used

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in these emergency kitchens?

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Well, this Soyer
stove goes way back.

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It was invented by
the chef for Napoleon,

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and they haven't been able to
improve on this stove since.

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It burns anything, anything at
all you can get your hands on,

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this stove will burn,
and you can cook on it.

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Coal, wood.

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Anything at all.

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Anything that burns.

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Anything that burns.

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Another very interesting thing
that is taking place here

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in the way of cooperation
between the province of British

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Columbia and Washington
state is the cooperation

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in the area of firefighting.

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Could you tell us something
about the couplings, Ray,

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that the firefighters can
get at the border stations?

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Yes, the threading on the
fire equipment in Canada

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differs from the threads on the
fire equipment in our country.

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And in our mutual
cooperation, each nation

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has purchased and
mounted adapters

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that they're now
interchangeable,

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and the Canadian fire
department can fight fires

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in the United States, and
the American equipment

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can do likewise in Canada.

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Well, if say the New
Westminster fire department were

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to be coming down
here to help us,

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where would they pick
up these adapters,

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at the Canadian or
the American stations?

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They'd pick them up
at the custom house.

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In Canada, Canadian
custom house.

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And in the case of firefighting
equipment going north,

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they'd pick it up at the
American custom house.

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At the American customs house.

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That's right.

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I see.

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Is there any problem
here with insurance?

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I know there have
been cases where

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firefighting equipment
from one city

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has not gone to another, because
they say their insurance won't

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cover.

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Has that been cleared
up in this case?

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That has been cleared up.

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In the planning of the
program, that question

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was cleared up to
the mutual benefit

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of both countries involved.

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There is no insurance
liability or problem.

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Can this firefighting
equipment be

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utilized across the
border in any other

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than just the case of national
attack, war, in other words?

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Can they be used in case
of natural disaster?

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A terrible fire in Blaine,
could they get help from BC?

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Yes, they could get help
from British Columbia.

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Likewise, British
Columbia could get help

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if a conflagration
started that was

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beyond the capabilities
of either department,

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they could call for mutual
aid, and they would receive it.

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And gentlemen, I know that
this, today, this ceremony

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was the fruition of a long
series of meetings and work

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that involved
hundreds of people.

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Now that it's completed, what
are you looking forward to,

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more cooperation or what?

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Well, we couldn't expect
much more cooperation

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than we've already received
from the good Canadian friends,

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but however, let's say the
cooperation will continue,

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and the friendship
that we've known

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will not stop just because this
plaque has been dedicated here

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today.

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What about you, Mr. Littlehales?

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Well, I think the one big thing
that we get out of this, Al,

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is the fact that
in our agreements

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there is a definite
statement about no border.

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There is a no border policy,
and we are acting as one people.

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I think this is a big lesson
that people all over the world

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should note and take
note of, and they

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can learn a lot from it.

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