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KVOS Special: Operation Cooperation

  • Ladies and gentlemen, the ground on which we stand today
  • has seen numerous ceremonies honoring the ties of friendship
  • and cooperation that continue to flourish
  • between the province of British Columbia
  • and the state of Washington.
  • Today, we are commemorating the most noble gesture,
  • which one nation can extend toward another,
  • that of a helping hand in a time of need.
  • A major natural disaster or nuclear attack,
  • concentrated in this area of Canada or the United States
  • would create an immediate requirement for disaster
  • services and mutual assistance between our two
  • great countries, our provinces and states, our cities,
  • large and small.
  • The voluntary dispersal of people
  • from the Vancouver target area in the possible event
  • of disaster.
  • Our common tongue does much to assist in our mutual trust
  • and understanding.
  • However, it does only one factor in the attainment
  • of such a forward step in survival planning.
  • Much work spread over several years
  • has been accomplished by the officials of the civil defense
  • organizations of the state of Washington
  • and of British Columbia, so that today's arrangements
  • could become a reality.
  • Across this unfortified boundary,
  • with our hands clasped in friendship,
  • we mark today as the completion of a vital step
  • toward ensuring the survival of our people.
  • It is an agreement that sets up a traffic control plan that
  • gives us assurance to people of the Vancouver target area
  • that they may exit during a period of disaster
  • to the eastern part of our own province,
  • through Whatcom County.
  • Canada and the United States is the example to all the world,
  • to all the world, of mutual trust and understanding.
  • May our mutual friendship and understanding
  • continue to live and to prosper forever plus one day.
  • Thank you.
  • Be my guest.
  • Go ahead.
  • All set?
  • [MUSIC PLAYING]
  • This is the honorable W.D. Black,
  • Provincial Secretary for the province of British Columbia.
  • Minister Black, why is British Columbia taking the lead
  • among the six provinces that border on the United States
  • in this kind of civil defense cooperation?
  • Well, my friend, number one is because we just
  • happen to be the smartest people in Canada.
  • But number two is because of our topography and our geography.
  • You'll recall that the Rocky Mountain range comes down
  • bordering or cutting us off, rather,
  • from Alberta and possibly the rest of Canada.
  • And it is to our mutual aid and advantage
  • to have a cooperative program with the state of Washington.
  • And we've found that cooperation excellent
  • and to the mutual benefit of both parties.
  • Is this rooting through Whatcom County a permanent,
  • or are there plans for developing evacuation routes
  • within British Columbia?
  • Well, let me answer it this way, that we
  • do have other evacuation routes in British Columbia.
  • But most people in this general area
  • know the city of Vancouver, and they
  • know that there's approximately eight lanes of traffic
  • coming out of Vancouver toward the south or toward this way.
  • And when we reach Hope, that narrows
  • into two lanes of traffic.
  • And it becomes very obvious that if we've
  • continued with that type of evacuation, then
  • we'd have nothing but congestion.
  • And this arrangement that was made here today
  • will alleviate, at least to some degree, that congestion that
  • might occur at that point.
  • Thank you very much the Honorable W.D.
  • Black, Provincial Secretary for the province of British
  • Columbia.
  • Turning to another topic, the North Cross State Highway.
  • Do you think this would have significant civil defense
  • value as evacuation routes both for people
  • in this part of Washington state and in Southern British
  • Columbia?
  • I believe I could say, Al, that a North Cross State
  • Highway would be of great benefit to this particular area
  • and to the province of British Columbia.
  • I think the economic value is tremendous.
  • But the fact that you just mentioned
  • that it could help with civil defense, I'm sure it could.
  • Thank you very much.
  • Lieutenant Governor, John Cherberg
  • of the state of Washington.
  • We are standing in the Washington State Civil Defense
  • Mobile Command post bus, and we are talking with General E.M.
  • Llewellyn, who is the civil defense coordinator
  • for the state of Washington.
  • General Llewellyn, what is this bus's purpose?
  • Well, this is a mobile command post.
  • We can operate state government from this particular unit.
  • We can keep, for example, in touch with [INAUDIBLE] command,
  • with all our county government, with state fisheries and game,
  • with the military, with air, with home civil defense
  • networks, Coast Guard, and with what
  • we call ham operators, which is almost everybody else.
  • And as this would be the place from which the communications
  • for state government would be carried
  • on an event of a national disaster?
  • It could be.
  • In other words, we could move this bus to any safe location
  • and still operate and maintain communications
  • with all other units of government.
  • We are here at the peace arch today
  • to start a new cooperative venture between Washington
  • state and British Columbia with regard to evacuation routes.
  • When was this first suggested?
  • About two years ago.
  • See, it takes quite a bit of time
  • to work out an international agreement.
  • First starts at the state level between the two state
  • governments, and it has to go up to the State Department.
  • And our State Department in Washington DC
  • works with Ottawa, Canada.
  • And so it takes nearly two years to work out
  • an agreement on the local level when you finally
  • put it through the whole mill.
  • Do you find this cooperation in civil defense
  • with the province of British Columbia
  • to be a significant strategic factor in your long range
  • planning?
  • Yes, we do.
  • Many people, I believe fail to realize
  • how intertied we are with various sections of even
  • the North American continent.
  • For example, should the bomb drop on the state of Washington
  • or on the whole United States, producing three times the food
  • we need in Washington, we'd find we would have to supply food
  • to Alaska and Idaho, and we'd probably
  • receive some food from Oregon.
  • And this also overlaps into Canada.
  • These interchanges of materials and supplies
  • and strategic materials, we receive oil, for example,
  • from Canada.
  • So all of these things have to be organized
  • on a cooperative basis.
  • And this form of cooperation is an absolute necessity then.
  • Absolutely.
  • Even in peacetime, it's required.
  • In war time, it'd become absolutely necessary
  • for survival.
  • What are current plans with regard to civil defense
  • in Washington state?
  • Well, our big project now is to provide protection
  • from fallout for the entire population
  • of the state of Washington.
  • We have recently uncovered and engineered
  • the safety factors of every building, mine, tunnel,
  • and structure in the state of Washington,
  • and we now know that there is survival protection
  • for some 690,000 of our people, and between now and the first
  • of the year, we will stock all of these facilities
  • with food, water, sanitary equipment, first aid equipment,
  • and radiological equipment for that protection in case
  • of the bomb.
  • Thank you very much, General Llewellyn.
  • This is Brigadier J.F.A. Lister, civil defense coordinator
  • for the province of British Columbia.
  • Brigadier Lister, have plans been developed whereby
  • Washington state residents might be using BC facilities in case
  • of an international disaster?
  • Mr. Swift, all our planning is based on reciprocity,
  • and we would certainly welcome the opportunity
  • to assist the people of Washington state
  • if there was a strike down here and not one
  • in British Columbia.
  • I see.
  • Well, would this cooperation also
  • extend on both sides of the border
  • to things other than evacuation routes,
  • such as hospitals, fire equipment, things
  • of this nature, food?
  • It definitely would, Mr. Swift.
  • After all, people are people.
  • And it doesn't matter whether they come from Washington
  • or British Columbia, our facilities
  • would be placed at your disposal.
  • And this cross the border cooperation is something
  • that is a necessity if civil defense programs in both
  • the province and in the state of Washington are to be effective,
  • is that right?
  • To all intents and purposes, Mr. Swift,
  • we are one country if the continent is attacked.
  • I see.
  • What are current plans in British Columbia
  • for additional civil defense activities for the protection
  • of the citizens?
  • Well, our planning is based on shelter and dispersal.
  • And of course, dispersal is on a voluntary basis.
  • That's the reason we're here today,
  • another method of dispersal.
  • Exactly, Mr. Swift.
  • Exactly.
  • This bronze plaque commemorates the ceremonies completed here
  • today September 22, 1962, signifying
  • the placing of the first marker route for the dispersal routes
  • from Vancouver through Washington state
  • and into British Columbia again.
  • And with us today is John Littlehales,
  • the civil defense coordinator for the Vancouver zone,
  • and Ray Henning, who is the civil defense
  • director for Whatcom County.
  • First of all, John could you tell us
  • where this dispersal route begins?
  • It follows the Deas Island freeway
  • through the Deas Island tunnel down to the border here.
  • And when it gets to the border, where does it go?
  • It goes over two routes.
  • It goes over H Street, East, and it also
  • goes over the Blaine-Sumas road to Sumas, to the border control
  • station at Sumas and then back on into Canada.
  • Now, H Street is H Street in Blaine?
  • That is H Street in Blaine.
  • That's right.
  • OK, once it gets to the Sumas border,
  • where does it go from there?
  • Well it goes from the border crossing up back
  • to Trans Canada Highway through Chilliwack
  • and through the Hope.
  • Mr. Littlehales, another very interesting thing
  • took place this afternoon.
  • That was the feeding of the troops in the emergency
  • kitchens up here.
  • How many of these kitchens do you
  • have in British Columbia or will you have soon?
  • Well, at the moment we have two of them Al.
  • But we have six more coming, and we will have eight
  • altogether in my zone.
  • And how many people could one of these kitchens feed?
  • Well, each kitchen feeds 500 persons for one hour.
  • For one hour.
  • For one hour.
  • And these are completely equipped?
  • Completely equipped, all except the food, of course.
  • I noticed a rather interesting stove.
  • Could you tell us something about the stoves that are used
  • in these emergency kitchens?
  • Well, this Soyer stove goes way back.
  • It was invented by the chef for Napoleon,
  • and they haven't been able to improve on this stove since.
  • It burns anything, anything at all you can get your hands on,
  • this stove will burn, and you can cook on it.
  • Coal, wood.
  • Anything at all.
  • Anything that burns.
  • Anything that burns.
  • Another very interesting thing that is taking place here
  • in the way of cooperation between the province of British
  • Columbia and Washington state is the cooperation
  • in the area of firefighting.
  • Could you tell us something about the couplings, Ray,
  • that the firefighters can get at the border stations?
  • Yes, the threading on the fire equipment in Canada
  • differs from the threads on the fire equipment in our country.
  • And in our mutual cooperation, each nation
  • has purchased and mounted adapters
  • that they're now interchangeable,
  • and the Canadian fire department can fight fires
  • in the United States, and the American equipment
  • can do likewise in Canada.
  • Well, if say the New Westminster fire department were
  • to be coming down here to help us,
  • where would they pick up these adapters,
  • at the Canadian or the American stations?
  • They'd pick them up at the custom house.
  • In Canada, Canadian custom house.
  • And in the case of firefighting equipment going north,
  • they'd pick it up at the American custom house.
  • At the American customs house.
  • That's right.
  • I see.
  • Is there any problem here with insurance?
  • I know there have been cases where
  • firefighting equipment from one city
  • has not gone to another, because they say their insurance won't
  • cover.
  • Has that been cleared up in this case?
  • That has been cleared up.
  • In the planning of the program, that question
  • was cleared up to the mutual benefit
  • of both countries involved.
  • There is no insurance liability or problem.
  • Can this firefighting equipment be
  • utilized across the border in any other
  • than just the case of national attack, war, in other words?
  • Can they be used in case of natural disaster?
  • A terrible fire in Blaine, could they get help from BC?
  • Yes, they could get help from British Columbia.
  • Likewise, British Columbia could get help
  • if a conflagration started that was
  • beyond the capabilities of either department,
  • they could call for mutual aid, and they would receive it.
  • And gentlemen, I know that this, today, this ceremony
  • was the fruition of a long series of meetings and work
  • that involved hundreds of people.
  • Now that it's completed, what are you looking forward to,
  • more cooperation or what?
  • Well, we couldn't expect much more cooperation
  • than we've already received from the good Canadian friends,
  • but however, let's say the cooperation will continue,
  • and the friendship that we've known
  • will not stop just because this plaque has been dedicated here
  • today.
  • What about you, Mr. Littlehales?
  • Well, I think the one big thing that we get out of this, Al,
  • is the fact that in our agreements
  • there is a definite statement about no border.
  • There is a no border policy, and we are acting as one people.
  • I think this is a big lesson that people all over the world
  • should note and take note of, and they
  • can learn a lot from it.